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James Coish Aug 11, 2018 (16:18)

Polil camya ni mapaitas formalyasse.
Mal lá polil camya ni mapaitas hyarmalyasse.
Ma Man nán?

Paul Strack Aug 11, 2018 (17:08)

I’m not sure what you meant with the ni. I think I would say polil mapa formalyasse ...

Anyway: henquenta: hyarya ólemelya

Tamas Ferencz Aug 11, 2018 (17:38)

+Paul Strack both mapa and *kamya require an object so either ni or sa would make sense

Paul Strack Aug 11, 2018 (17:43)

+Tamas Ferencz oh duh, I should have realized that.

Maybe polil mapaitas formalyasse then? Although the ni also makes prefect sense.

James Coish Aug 11, 2018 (18:39)

+Paul Strack I hanquenta sa sámen, né hyarma, mal óleme ná mára, yú!

James Coish Aug 11, 2018 (18:40)

Ni - me

Björn Fromén Aug 12, 2018 (17:52)

I was wondering: doesn't ma nán? mean 'am I?'' ?. 'Who/What am I?' would be man/mana nán? I think.

James Coish Aug 12, 2018 (17:57)

I just used the interrogative and 1st person verb. cf. ma caruvalwë ohta “shall we make war” PE22/161. ma Varda enquantuva i yulma nin sí “will Varda now refill the cup for me?” PE22/161.
I suppose you could use man nán.

James Coish Aug 12, 2018 (22:10)

manye is 'am I?', I think.

Björn Fromén Aug 13, 2018 (00:39)

The interrogative particle ma transforms an affirmative sentence into a question (somewhat like a spoken question mark): caruvalwe ohta 'we shall make war' > ma caruvalwe ohta? 'shall we make war?' Thus nán 'I am' > ma nán? 'am I?'

The meaning of manye is wholly dependent on previous context. It can mean 'am I?' but also 'must I?', 'did I?' etc. (PE 22:160).

James Coish Aug 13, 2018 (00:43)

+Björn Fromén I see. Thank you for your insight. I shall make the proper changes. ☺

Tamas Ferencz Aug 13, 2018 (01:43)

But let's also point out that the presence of ma is not a must in questions.