G+ LoME Archive
Apr 24, 2016 (20:12)
Alla ilin...I was looking over attested male/female animal words. Some, like rocco/rocce are easy, but I was wondering how huo would be feminized; hue? huo < √KHUG [khugo > hugo > huo; khuge > huge > hue]
I also noticed in QL that ᴱQ. suni n. “bitch” < ᴱ√SAWA < sẇǝnī́ < sǝwǝ
ᴱQ. fan n. “dog” < ᴱ√SAWA < swǝnd- < sǝwǝ. Similarities between "sw" becoming "fu" which became "hu" (<- almost correct?).
Apr 24, 2016 (20:31)
There are a few pairs, like EQ
Apr 24, 2016 (20:50)
Gender was pretty important in the earliest iterations of the Elvish language: QL/GL had a large number of gender-specific animal names. In later iterations of the languages, though, gender seems to have lost a lot of its significance.
I think it is safe to assume that many Elvish words for animals would be gender-neutral. In Tolkien's later conceptions, I think
would be used to refer to horses and dogs of both genders, without distinct words for "mare" or "bitch".
Apr 24, 2016 (21:00)
PE21:082 is a pretty goldmine here. He has
) 'deer' vs.
'were-wolf'. He says "Animal-names usually have no sex; though the later Eldarin languages could mark sex with suffixes, or prefixes (as English lioness, she-boar)" and goes on to claim that final -ō is replaced with -ē to mark feminines, while short-vowel ending nouns add ē, jē, ijē and occasionally a masculine in ō as well, to distinguish from a genderless form.