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Hjalmar Holm May 01, 2015 (02:13)

How do I express "The farmer and his two daughters"? The closest i got was this: I rermo ar i seldet

Paul Strack May 01, 2015 (03:16)

G. nandor, nanweg = "farmer", derived from G. nand "field" and meaning "field man". Using the same pattern in Quenya, perhaps restamo?

Also, "his daughters" would be selderyat.

Hjalmar Holm May 01, 2015 (03:22)

So -rya could be used for genitive as well as possessive?

Paul Strack May 01, 2015 (03:38)

The suffix -rya = 3rd singular possessive (his, her, its). Genitive is -o.

EDIT: For example, máryat = "her (two) hands" from the Namárië poem.

Paul Strack May 01, 2015 (03:44)

Sorry, I may have misunderstood your question. That's what I get for answering two quickly.

"The farmer and his two daughters" = i restamo ar selderyat does not need the genitive.

"The two daughters of the farmer" would be i seldet restamo with the genitive.

Hjalmar Holm May 01, 2015 (04:06)

All right, i used  -rya. It is not relevant if he ownes the daughters, but they are of his origin, therefore I thought of genitive rather than possessive. 

Paul Strack May 01, 2015 (04:10)

I don't think that possessive pronoun suffixes have the same connotation of ownership that -va has. For example, "my father" is atarinya (UT/186), but I doubt that implies ownership.