G+ LoME Archive
Feb 19, 2018 (12:28)
Samin Isilya-lumbe. Sinome háman opo nonwanya, mauya men moia, lanye. *Hentópanyat lunge; sanarinya hísea; uiúlien yulmali *kofio quanta, la káre mára.
Samin maure mólehautalen!
Feb 19, 2018 (16:14)
Isilyali ve ta. Sisse, yane Elenya yo Anarya amalassie nin; sie, síra mauya nin kare rimbe kardali. Ente, síra meryale: *karaitiekoali avalatyaine. Náve ankaraite anda lúmen nwaruva aiquen.
Feb 19, 2018 (16:58)
manima meryale síra?
Feb 19, 2018 (17:06)
Síra *Epeharmure [Presidents' (dual) Day, (lit.) before-sitters' day, presiders' day < epe + har + mo +u +re]: enyalien *epeharmu Washington yo Lincoln.
Feb 19, 2018 (17:20)
Feb 19, 2018 (17:33)
Feb 19, 2018 (20:47)
(I am not that sure about that literal translation of president TBH :)
Feb 19, 2018 (23:47)
[I'm not that sure about it, either. I think that in this case, something more specific than a general "leader" title like
is appropriate/necessary (for instance, to distinguish presidents from other leaders like state governors). However, since the title "president" in any language may well have not existed in Middle Earth, some inherently NQ construct seems indicated. I also contemplated
along similar lines, but I'm quite open to less literal suggestions.]
Feb 20, 2018 (00:16)
I don't know yet. Perhaps something involving
). Or using OPO/PO in the sense of
(I feel it's better suited than
). Or maybe I can come to peace with
Feb 20, 2018 (10:43)
[elfling ID#28614] suggested
for "president". Since then it was not challenged :-)
Feb 20, 2018 (10:51)
well, hereby it is challenged:)
Feb 21, 2018 (17:06)
To achieve the literal meaning “chairperson”, I would start with a later word for “seat, chair”: direct affixing yields
*hanwamo < khadmā + -mo, *handamo < *khadnā + -mo
or reconstructing yields
*hanwo < *khadmō
with literal meaning “sit-person; sitter”.
Now that I look at the etymology of
har- < khad-
seems phonologically unlikely. Prefixing then yields
(I cannot figure out what †pkʰ or †pk would have become other than that they don’t occur, so no syncope). This may be a way to distinguish “chairperson” and ”president” when necessary. Also, other affixes than
are certainly plausible:
*harquen < khad- + -quen, *hanwaquen, *handaquen
, for instance.
Less literal renderings are still very much on the table, of course:
*minkanwo, *minkanwamo, *minkarquen, arta