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Sep 29, 2017 (15:45)
A quenya syntax question: Should I normally position and adjective describing a noun before or after the noun in question? E.g.
Cenean yaule morna
cenean morna yaule
? I have heard that there is a distinction between a specifiv universally known thing with a specific trait, and things in general having that trait, for example the white ships of Alqualonde might be famous enough to distinguish from just any white ships, but in such a case I would say/write it as a combined word, as a name, i.e. Fanyaciryar. What have you quenyaspeakers to say?
Sep 29, 2017 (15:59)
Quenya adjectives are normally before the noun, though I believe there is more freedom than in English. I have to check my notes to see if there is more information.
Sep 29, 2017 (16:13)
Here are my notes on adjective order. They generally precede the noun in ordinary sentences and compounds (PE17/93, PM/346). One exception would be when the adjective is used as a title (UT/317) as in Gandalf the Grey: Olórin Míse.
Sep 29, 2017 (16:25)
Agreed, the normal syntax is to place the adjective before the noun. Where it follows the noun it often is part of the predicate (with the copula omitted):
"Elves are ambidextrous...".
See also PE22:124: "Since the normal place of an adjective attributive was in Q.
its noun, the adjective was marked as predicative by being placed after the noun:
Sep 29, 2017 (16:36)
BTW it's either
is a primitive verb.