G+ LoME Archive
Feb 14, 2015 (01:35)
I thought of a S word for squirrel:
and a S word for badger
acting suffix, as badgers are known for their lairs)
I got massive help from a friend.
Feb 14, 2015 (10:03)
I don't see why you would lose one of the n-s, Sindarin is quite happy with double consonants:
I am not very comfortable with the other suggestion.
Feb 14, 2015 (10:50)
Just *drafnir for "badger", possibly? To my knowledge, most even non-Indo-European words for "badger" refer either to "digging" or to the colour grey, but the second is too vague and would produce a name applicable to many species.
Feb 14, 2015 (12:51)
how about combining the two notions into
Feb 14, 2015 (13:59)
And what about
"stench" + *
"dig", cf. Q
, etc.) or
) for "badger"?
Feb 14, 2015 (15:26)
Isn't that rather a skunk? :)
Feb 14, 2015 (20:18)
"Nut-gatherer/- ...er" type of solution would obviously require a word for "nut". What would that be in light of what there is (in practice meaning PE11 & 12?)...
(< *kots- ) ? [
being the attested Goldogrin noun.]
Feb 15, 2015 (00:28)
Yep, though mustelids also have scent glands. :)
Feb 16, 2015 (12:58)
I always find it interesting to see how other people develop reconstructions. I look at the etymology of the English first and take it back as far as I can, hence my version of squirrel is 'shadow tail', entirely different!
Feb 18, 2015 (15:35)
reconstruction with the help of
? But I really like the suggestions
As for badger, I find it trickier. Isn't
the verb "hew" rather than "dig"? To me
, although a beautiful word, sounds more like a grey-coloured beaver (another animal lacking name...).
Feb 18, 2015 (22:15)
For dig, you can use Saba- = to dig, excavate, from SAPA. I believe I went with Dae for shadow at the time (out of the many options!)
Feb 20, 2015 (14:31)
for badger and use your word for skunk?
Feb 20, 2015 (15:03)
It's your choice. :)
Feb 21, 2015 (13:15)
Well, I want words that other people can use without frowning upon them, and I am not very lerned in linguistics. Especially if they are to be included in the VQP I need approval.
Feb 21, 2015 (18:34)
What can I say? I like these constructions, they seem to be grammatically correct and sound "natural", but it's just my opinion. And I'm no linguist either. :) Nor an authority.
If someone doesn't like them then they won't use them. So what? The only absolute authority would have rejected all of our constructions anyway... :)
Feb 21, 2015 (20:31)
The only real authority now is
Feb 22, 2015 (21:32)
After thinking for quite some time, I want to try out your name for squirrel. How did you sindarinize Q
? I think of using
for forest-living mice and voles instead, such as bank vole.
Feb 24, 2015 (13:35)
For the latter purpose of
, as "forest-living mouse or vole" perhaps
would be better? And I have thought of sindarinization of Q
, by looking at
could be the S word for "tail"?
Feb 24, 2015 (14:35)
attested? I have only found
Feb 24, 2015 (16:06)
It's one of HKF's adapations from
into more modern Quenya.
using this adaptation (the tenuousness of which I dislike, but it's the only word we have for it...) - pimpe -> pimp -> pimb -> pimm -> pim was I believe the process it went through (on the basis of lambe -> lamme -> lamm -> lam).
It's a while since I made it.
Feb 24, 2015 (20:06)
I'm not entierly happy with the phonetics of
, but I think about adding
as tail. Thinking anew, and considering the behaviour of squirrels,
might be good. Will that result in
? Quarreling tail.
Feb 24, 2015 (20:38)
Do your squirrels often quarrel? Ours just tend to be overly friendly and want to steal our food... :D Actually according to the rules I have written down it wouldn't change to that, the P would become B but the ST wouldn't change.
Feb 24, 2015 (21:43)
Food-theft is a common source of quarrel and feud! According to the rules I have written down from Fiona Jalling's site, the final "t" in
would cause stop mutation on the following "p", making it "ph" instead...
Mar 02, 2015 (20:44)
After reading works of Salo and Fauskanger, I realize that stop mutation maybe never applies to compound words at all.
But according to Salo's Gateway the final -
would be reduced to
, making it
Mar 08, 2015 (21:42)
I have a hard time making up my mind.
might be even better, using the NS word
found in VQP.
could easily be (mis)understood as a wolverine, for they are indeed quarrelsome.