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Tamas Ferencz Dec 04, 2014 (11:23)

Do you think *colexe 'carry oneself' could be an acceptable neologism for 'behave'?
Edit: just realized we do have an attested verb lenga- in PE17.

And how would you say 'of course, naturally' in Quenya?

Matt Dinse Dec 04, 2014 (23:32)

*úcostima or *úcósima for "undisputable" comes to mind (cp. √KOSO in QL, KOT > KOTH in Etym.), though that's not quite the same (and isn't an adverb).

Tamas Ferencz Dec 05, 2014 (09:08)

Yes, I have the feeling Tolkien would come up with some nice idiom for this...

Matt Dinse Dec 05, 2014 (20:43)

Yeah - and it might be something more along the lines of aqua's derivation instead of a mix of affixes?

Tamas Ferencz Dec 08, 2014 (10:23)

As a response to a question, perhaps a simple É náto! 'Yes, indeed!' would do.

Speaking of naturally, nature itself is a question. Perhaps *onnasta 'all things begotten' could be a possibility.

Björn Fromén Dec 08, 2014 (22:55)

The problem with the word nature is its many diverse meanings. Eldarissa has nostale for 'nature' = 'innate or essential qualities': nostalen mâra 'good by nature' (PE 11:10). Perhaps we could use nostalénen for 'naturally' in the sense 'as can be expected from the nature of something or someone'.

Tamas Ferencz Dec 09, 2014 (09:11)

+Björn Fromén
the more I think of your proposition the more I like it. It fits the natus - natura - born - 'everything that's born' - 'something that is born with us' - innate (in-born) trait metaphor nicely.
Sure, the meaning of 'nature' in English (and other languages) got sloppy over time, and nowadays it mostly means 'the world that has not been transformed by humans', including inanimate things.

Björn Fromén Dec 09, 2014 (17:04)

Yes, as nosta- already meant 'give birth to' in Eldarissa (QL), Tolkien most probably intended nostale to parallel the Latin natura from nasci, natus.

Hjalmar Holm Mar 02, 2015 (21:15)

Ideas for S cognate? To use noss or onna?