I've release Eldamo 0.6.1:
https://eldamo.org/
This is the first release of Eldamo that does not have any new data entry. It involves a major reorganization of the data, as discussed here:
https://eldamo.org/general/version-history.html#v0.6.1
I also had to abandon the Gentium webfont, which makes me sad. I started using that font many years ago because of its excellent support for combining diacritics (rare at the time). But modern fonts have caught up with, and I am starting to use emoji-based icons in Eldamo, and Gentium has no support of emoji's.
I've switched to Times New Roman, which is serviceable but boring. Ah well, at least it is universally supported.
Paul Strack Feb 10, 2018 (16:44)
Tamas Ferencz Feb 10, 2018 (16:51)
Tamas Ferencz Feb 10, 2018 (17:42)
Paul Strack Feb 10, 2018 (17:49)
I am open to suggestions though. I’m tempted to hack Gentium and add the handful of emoji’s I want to use.
Tamas Ferencz Feb 10, 2018 (17:54)
Paul Strack Feb 10, 2018 (19:04)
http://eldamo.org/beta/
Tamas Ferencz Feb 10, 2018 (19:51)
Paul Strack Feb 10, 2018 (20:16)
Tamas Ferencz Feb 11, 2018 (00:22)
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (01:37)
Lokyt L. Feb 11, 2018 (18:12)
2) Maybe it´s too late for such things, but... I just tried some search on Eldamo and realized it was not the first time that a search (i.e. Search) from multiple tabs (or simply something allowing me to search for multiple values at one time) would come handy.
E.g. if I want words beginning with "m" and at the same time containing "ai" anywhere within, all I can do is search for one of these values and then process the result manually.
Would it be difficult to add a functionality that would resolve this?
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (18:25)
Maybe there is another way I could support your requirements? Perhaps giving a way to export search results to a spreadsheet for more detailed analysis?
Tamas Ferencz Feb 11, 2018 (18:31)
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (18:46)
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (18:50)
Tamas Ferencz Feb 11, 2018 (18:57)
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (19:02)
Maybe I will remember that this time :)
Lokyt L. Feb 11, 2018 (19:02)
I think generally there are three options: 1) indeed wildcards / regex / functions AND, OR etc.; 2) multiple search tabs (it doesn't have to be much of an addition: there's already a button that hides the filters, and this would only add one more such a button - one that would add/remove a second/third/etc. tab for inserting characters); 3) an option to apply the next search on the result of the previous search (instead of the full content of Eldamo again).
Paul Strack Feb 11, 2018 (19:06)
Lokyt L. Feb 12, 2018 (00:09)
Paul Strack Feb 12, 2018 (00:26)
Lokyt L. Feb 12, 2018 (00:58)
Paul Strack Feb 12, 2018 (01:08)
Lokyt L. Feb 12, 2018 (01:36)
Today I searched for about 15 English words and some of them turned to gloss words in more than 5 Eldarin languages (early-middle-late...). That gave me altogether dozens of alphabetically arranged gloss+language-subsets to search for "m"-words manually :)
It's no problem to do this manual work (or to copy all the results somewhere else and continue working with them outside Eldamo). I do just that if this kind of situation arrives. But it consumes time, compared to the ideal situation of having precisely the set of results I need in front of me within a few seconds (let alone all clickable at once) - which is something a spoilt user of today's internet got used to ;)
Paul Strack Feb 12, 2018 (01:43)
So far what you are trying to do seems very strange to me. Unless I understand better what you are trying to accomplish, I can’t suggest the best way to do it, or figure out how to enhance the system to support it.
My only guess is you are trying to formulate a motto or personal name that you want to begin with the letter M for some reason.
Lokyt L. Feb 12, 2018 (02:08)
I'm currently tracing Tolkien's ideas about the semantic field of "will-intention-desire-wish". And at the particular moment, I was interested in the evolution surrounding the roots MEN, MER, MBER, MED and their possible early predecessors (like MEK).
So the search aimed at all roots and derivations, regardless of time period, on "m-" or (former) "mb-" with a gloss from the area I mentioned ("want", "wish", "desire", "long", "greed", "lust", "intend", "aim", "goal", "will", "resolve", "mean" etc. etc.).
Paul Strack Feb 12, 2018 (02:29)
I think the best way to support something like that would be the AND, OR keywords you were suggesting earlier, combined with wildcards. For example:
m* AND (want OR wish OR desire)
Combined with a language restriction of “All Primitive Elvish”
The AND, OR keywords would probably be generally useful as well, especially in combination with wildcards.
I will think about it. If we are going in the direction, search results that are bookmarkable or linkable would also be useful, especially for discussion purposes.
Lokyt L. Feb 12, 2018 (03:28)
It's true that the combination you suggest ("m* AND ...") would give a limited enough set of results (the number of unwanted entries that would pass would be acceptably small, while no wanted entry would be missed). As it would be the case with probably any complicated search, if one combines wildcards and logical operators smartly enough. Good point.
Though I also agree that bookmarkable, linkable and - most importantly - searchable search results would be simply perfect.