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Hjalmar Holm Jan 24, 2015 (15:45)

I thought about a S word for spruce of fir trees (not a specific species, more the genuses or type of trees), i.e. a conical shaped tree. Maybe combine naith and orn?

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Jan 24, 2015 (20:42)

Or something containing an element from either AYAK or EK; cf. Gnomish aigos "pinetree", aith "thorn", aithog "thorny", aithos "thorn-bush" (PE11:17-18) and the tree-names in Qenya [ ].

Tachol "pin" overlaps with German Nadel (~baum, ~holz "coniferous tree") & Finnish neula (diminutive ).

Lőrinczi Gábor Jan 25, 2015 (14:11)

Mixing both of you ideas, I would use the word ecthel (e.g., *ecthelorn), because pine trees look like a spear-head (thela) from a distance, and they have pine-needles, which prick like thorns (êg).

Tamas Ferencz Jan 25, 2015 (16:18)

Is thôn too generic for your purpose +Hjalmar Holm ?

Hjalmar Holm Jan 25, 2015 (19:27)

Or perhaps *thelorn, for a shorter and worn-down word? I looked at súke and aiqaire but I did not find the CE roots.

Yes Tamas, I want a word or species' of the Abies and Picea genuses (or only for species' of the Picea genus). Thôn is, as I have understood it, species' of the Pinus genus. Pinus sylvestris is the second most common tree where I live, and I think a generic Pinus word is enough, but the very most common is a Picea species, and the only tree here who have the conical shape with evenly distributed brances all the way on the stem (more or less). Abies species' also have a similar growing form, but generally less stabby needle-leaves. Pinus (the species I know of at least) have a bare stem with a rounded or even flattened crown.

Hjalmar Holm Jan 26, 2015 (00:34)

Perhaps *ecthorn is a better worn-down version of *ecthelorn, if indeed *ecthelorn is the good word to choose.

Jenna Carpenter Feb 03, 2015 (17:31)

Tad confused what you're actually looking for - is it a word for spruce, or a word for Pinaceae from which both pines and spruces come?

Hjalmar Holm Feb 14, 2015 (01:41)

+Jenna Carpenter Maybe and no, actually! I look for a word for a type of tree that looks like a spruce or a fir. The conical shape (christmas tree-shape if you want) of the whole tree and the needle-leaves are the main features. Species is not that important, though I would be happy for a word for Picea abies.

Hjalmar Holm Feb 18, 2015 (15:37)

For the moment, I lean more towards ecthelorn, as +Lőrinczi Gábor proposed.

Hjalmar Holm Feb 20, 2015 (14:31)

Can it be added to the VQP? If yes, can I add it myself?

Tamas Ferencz Feb 20, 2015 (14:38)

+Hjalmar Holm
sure, go ahead

Hjalmar Holm Feb 24, 2015 (00:42)

I thought again, and I thought of the semantic meaning "scratch-tree", because spruces are unfriendly trees that scratches people with their low-set wide brances, bark and needles. So, rhiborn?

Hjalmar Holm Feb 28, 2015 (16:40)

Now I'm not so sure with the semantics of "scratch" in English. What connotations will a "scratch-tree" give?

Jenna Carpenter Mar 01, 2015 (11:14)

Either 'one that is scratchy/one that scratches' , 'one built from scratch', or 'a beggar tree'. The last one's a bit dialectal though, so I wouldn't take any notice of that one!

Aramínwë Lambengolmion Mar 04, 2015 (03:55)

My thought is that Naidhorn sounds nice. mutated th (thorn) to dh'

Hjalmar Holm Mar 30, 2015 (00:24)

Aegorn perhaps. Hmm hmm. I still haven't made up my mind about that nasty tree.