Tamas Ferencz Sep 29, 2016 (13:23)


Out of the shadows a ladder was let down: it was made of rope, silver-grey and glimmering in the dark, and though it looked slender it proved strong enough to bear many men. Legolas ran lightly up, and Frodo followed slowly; behind came Sam trying not to breathe loudly. The branches of the mallorn-tree grew out nearly straight from the trunk, and then swept upward; but near the top the main stem divided into a crown of many boughs, and among these they found that there had been built a wooden platform, or flet as such things were called in those days: the Elves called it a talan. It was reached by a round hole in the centre through which the ladder passed.

LR Book II Chapter 6 Lothlórien

Tyeller[1] ner undulertaine et i huinello: *rappo karinwe, telemna-sinde ar sisillala i morniesse, ar ké nemner limpe tankantexer[2] faren tulke kole limbe neri. Laiqualasse ambanorne asiénen, ta Maura hilyane urdave[3]; kata tulne Persaila ríkala la súya ve róma[4]. I malinorneo olvar olaner amna téra et i telko, ta oronter amba; mal ara i inga i héra telko palyane linolvea olassienna, ar imbi te utúviente toina talan ampanótaina, hya ‘flet’ yalle sine tamani estanente tana aurissen: i Eldar estaner te talan. Quen mittane tere korna assa, tere tai i tyeller lahtaner.

[1] Plural of tyelle ‘grade, step in a ladder’ used in the sense of ‘ladder’
*rappa n. ‘rope’ RAPH
[2] reflexive form of tankata- ‘confirm’ -> ‘confirmed itself, proved to be’
[3] using the sense ‘arduous, slow’ of GUR
[4] anyone know of a simple adjective ‘loud’?

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Oct 07, 2016 (18:54)

BUR (whence S brui) > Q *vúr(ë)a / *vurya / *vu(u)rima ?

Tamas Ferencz Oct 07, 2016 (20:49)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ that's tempting

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Oct 08, 2016 (00:38)

It's nice to have to facilitate the comparing of the vocabularies (of S and Q), in order to find out what Quenya uses for S –ui. Another option would be to translate, say, Finnish äänekäs ( with hlón(a) +adj. suffix.

Tamas Ferencz Oct 10, 2016 (09:15)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ hlón + suffix would even match the Hungarian hang "sound" + -os "noun adjectival ending" (not that it's very relevant but interesting).
How would an + *hlónea look? *asslónea? *allónea?

Hjalmar Holm Oct 15, 2016 (14:29)

I can't find a single Q word with the sl combination.