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Jun 27, 2016 (21:39)
Mana estuvalme sina laima? (
Mana estuvalme sina laima? (Digitalis purpurea)
Jun 28, 2016 (09:57)
Mana estuvalme sina laite?
Jun 28, 2016 (10:15)
Jun 28, 2016 (10:56)
Jun 29, 2016 (00:43)
Jun 29, 2016 (09:58)
Jun 29, 2016 (10:39)
I know - what's your point?
Jun 29, 2016 (13:16)
Violet may be a better option for
. And, my point was that
, a replaced ᴱQ word for "colour". So perhaps
, though I'm not sure. Also, do we accept
Jun 29, 2016 (16:18)
PE21 is EQ too, it doesn't compel us to a decision.
But the question was about the plant, not the colour. And if you look into the Wiki, it is NOT a violet. It is a
. The Latin name is connected to the meaning "finger". One may suggest smth like *
Jun 29, 2016 (18:12)
I know it's a foxglove, they are everywhere in the woods at this time of the year... But if you look at the element
, Tolkien associates it in various words with the colour violet, mauve, and purple, so possibly in his mind the same word covered that whole spectrum.
But indeed the question was about the plant, which has probably as many names as there are languages. In Hungarian we call it "Thimbleflower".
We can use the Latin name as you suggest, or we can come up with a nice kenning ourselves, then if it catches on...
Jun 29, 2016 (18:29)
Just to mention it: the German name of this plant is "Fingerhut" - thimble.
Jun 30, 2016 (13:34)
as for colour, I agree that
covers the whole part of the spectrum. I'm not a painter, I don't distingush, e.g. violet and lilac in everyday life. In Russian this flower is called
Jun 30, 2016 (19:02)
Violet is closer to purple than lilac/mauve, in my opinion. That was my reasoning. And
(rather thimble-weed), in Turkish as well.
Jul 01, 2016 (08:44)
Well one can always take a reverse approach, name the flower first, and then name the colour
the flower, if you know what I mean