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Tamas Ferencz Jun 27, 2016 (21:39)

Mana estuvalme sina laima? (Digitalis purpurea)
Mana estuvalme sina laima? (Digitalis purpurea)

Ekin Gören Jun 28, 2016 (09:57)

Mana estuvalme sina laite?

Tamas Ferencz Jun 28, 2016 (10:15)


Ekin Gören Jun 28, 2016 (10:56)


Tamas Ferencz Jun 29, 2016 (10:39)

+Ekin Gören I know - what's your point?

Ekin Gören Jun 29, 2016 (13:16)

Violet may be a better option for purpurea. And, my point was that helinquilea uses quile, a replaced ᴱQ word for "colour". So perhaps helillaitea, though I'm not sure. Also, do we accept helin too?

Ицхак Пензев Jun 29, 2016 (16:18)

PE21 is EQ too, it doesn't compel us to a decision.
But the question was about the plant, not the colour. And if you look into the Wiki, it is NOT a violet. It is a purple foxglove. The Latin name is connected to the meaning "finger". One may suggest smth like *lepillot.

Tamas Ferencz Jun 29, 2016 (18:12)

+Ицхак Пензев I know it's a foxglove, they are everywhere in the woods at this time of the year... But if you look at the element helin, Tolkien associates it in various words with the colour violet, mauve, and purple, so possibly in his mind the same word covered that whole spectrum.
But indeed the question was about the plant, which has probably as many names as there are languages. In Hungarian we call it "Thimbleflower".
We can use the Latin name as you suggest, or we can come up with a nice kenning ourselves, then if it catches on...

Gabriele Gonzalez Jun 29, 2016 (18:29)

Just to mention it: the German name of this plant is "Fingerhut" - thimble.

Ицхак Пензев Jun 30, 2016 (13:34)

+Tamas Ferencz as for colour, I agree that helin covers the whole part of the spectrum. I'm not a painter, I don't distingush, e.g. violet and lilac in everyday life. In Russian this flower is called наперстянка "thimbleflower", too.

Ekin Gören Jun 30, 2016 (19:02)

+Ицхак Пензев Violet is closer to purple than lilac/mauve, in my opinion. That was my reasoning. And thimbleflower (rather thimble-weed), in Turkish as well.

Tamas Ferencz Jul 01, 2016 (08:44)

Well one can always take a reverse approach, name the flower first, and then name the colour off the flower, if you know what I mean