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Discussion, Paul Strack, Leonard W., Tamas Ferencz, Evan A

Leonard W. Nov 02, 2017 (21:10)

Someone asked me how you would say of the Earth and the Moon in Quenya, and I demurred. They are not a natural pair, but a pair in the given context, so yo came to mind, but how would you position the genitive suffix -o?

Ambar yo Isilo came to mind, to avoid confusing of with 's? What are your thoughts?

Paul Strack Nov 02, 2017 (23:53)

My intuition says either:

ambar yo isilo

or

ambaro ar isilo

But that’s a guess. I think yo would follow the rule of “last declinable word” and ar would not, declining each element separately.

Tamas Ferencz Nov 03, 2017 (00:29)

I think yo would follow the rule of “last declinable word” and ar would not, declining each element separately.
Why?

I think Ambarto Isilye is also a possibility

Paul Strack Nov 03, 2017 (00:50)

I must admit I have no reason for why yo would use the “last declinable word” and ar would not, beyond a gut feeling. For me, the yo-phrase feels more unified, and the ar-phrase less unified.

I agree that Ambarto Isilye also works.

Leonard W. Nov 03, 2017 (19:06)

Thank you for your input! :)

Evan A Nov 05, 2017 (08:20)

Ambar yo isilo has a nice sound repetition and rhythmic flow. As does Ambarto isilye. The first seems a bit more easy to understand at first glance.