For "to be right", Latin has recte sentire and vera dicere; compare these with Finnish olla oikeassa "to be in [the] right"[1] and puhua totta (< tosi, adj/n[2]).
Latin rectus would seem to correspond to Q téra, téna rather well. But with the above ideas, faila and naitë also seem like workable starting points.
Upon selecting the verb, attention should of course be paid to semantic unambiguity which may require a noun (or adverb) derivative instead of an adjective, and/or the use of a case ending.
Words that represent aspects of Latin ius are/include Q sanyë and Qe maxilis (maxilist-) "lordship" (with adj. maxima "powerful, having possession, having authority”, PE12:57/58).
Perhaps a compound noun conveying the idea of "a fair claim" could be constructed from alya-/amya-/mai- combined with iquis, –ta (Qe, "a request") or similar unitary derivative from THUR-2 (of minasurië) or NAM- (VT41:13).
Regarding 'the right' we have lenéme 'with leave' (in sense of 'permission'). PE17:95 gives lé 'with', so +#néme might be 'leave, permission' (perhaps with *NEM- as a variant of NAM-?). This could be used depending on the context.
Regarding 'to be right' why not Q. téra, N. tîr 'straight, right'? The 'right' here can hardly be meant in a directional sense, but rather seems to come from the same spatial metaphor underlying English 'getting the facts straight'.
Regarding the allative for 'against': I would say it's more than a bet, it's basically attested in ohta-káre Valannar. Though the Númenor-texts mostly translate it literally as 'on Powers', SD:247 has 'against Powers'. If not suitable in a given context, one could also use *nan from Sindarin dan 'against', if really needed. With a long vowel it's already attested as a conjunction.
+Roman Rausch that is good analysis, Roman, thank you. +#néme is a good find! Then there is lav- 'yield, grant, allow', so prhaps *lávie? Or what would DAB + -da give, *lamna? 'something that is granted'?
The root NIB- might imaginably be utilized to produce a form to say "facing, confronting, (ad)versus"; either a would-be neo-preposition/postposition, after the model of attestations like epë, terë, † harë (vs. ones ending in -i and -a) — or a fitting verb-form (personless present continuous or dat. inf. -ien) to take the place of a preposition.
ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Jul 16, 2014 (14:08)
Latin rectus would seem to correspond to Q téra, téna rather well. But with the above ideas, faila and naitë also seem like workable starting points.
Upon selecting the verb, attention should of course be paid to semantic unambiguity which may require a noun (or adverb) derivative instead of an adjective, and/or the use of a case ending.
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[1] Finnish oikea can refer to either the physical direction or the positive truth quality.
[2] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tosi
Tamas Ferencz Jul 16, 2014 (14:24)
Tamas Ferencz Jul 16, 2014 (15:08)
not sure about that; against does not necessarily mean 'in the opposite direction', and anyway au-, oa, hó- cover that quite well.
ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Jul 16, 2014 (17:01)
Words that represent aspects of Latin ius are/include Q sanyë and Qe maxilis (maxilist-) "lordship" (with adj. maxima "powerful, having possession, having authority”, PE12:57/58).
Perhaps a compound noun conveying the idea of "a fair claim" could be constructed from alya-/amya-/mai- combined with iquis, –ta (Qe, "a request") or similar unitary derivative from THUR-2 (of minasurië) or NAM- (VT41:13).
Roman Rausch Jul 17, 2014 (00:53)
Regarding 'to be right' why not Q. téra, N. tîr 'straight, right'? The 'right' here can hardly be meant in a directional sense, but rather seems to come from the same spatial metaphor underlying English 'getting the facts straight'.
Regarding the allative for 'against': I would say it's more than a bet, it's basically attested in ohta-káre Valannar. Though the Númenor-texts mostly translate it literally as 'on Powers', SD:247 has 'against Powers'.
If not suitable in a given context, one could also use *nan from Sindarin dan 'against', if really needed. With a long vowel it's already attested as a conjunction.
Tamas Ferencz Jul 17, 2014 (09:35)
that is good analysis, Roman, thank you. +#néme is a good find!
Then there is lav- 'yield, grant, allow', so prhaps *lávie? Or what would DAB + -da give, *lamna? 'something that is granted'?
ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Jul 17, 2014 (15:50)
Tamas Ferencz Jul 17, 2014 (15:58)
'facing sg' could also possibly be rendered as querna +-nna 'turned towards sg'
Ицхак Пензев Jul 20, 2014 (13:10)