+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ In Polish it also comes from "one of a kind, alone". I like erinquie and erinquale but would't one of them mean "loneliness"? Maybe the other could stand for "detail" and "unit" as well?
+Remy Corbin do you mean szczegól? ( Don't have the appropriate l on my keyboard). I have not realized that came from 'one of a kind'. Interesting. Having said that I personally don't really like erinquale etc. for 'detail'.
For SRIT and SAT, perhaps *hraitasta < *sraitā-stā “specially/peculiarly fashioned/shaped part/element, ~particular aspect”. This (or something like it) may be fitting for “detail” with particular scope—a particular feature (of something). The adjective *hraita “specially/peculiarly fashioned/shaped, particular” may be independently useful.
I like the sound of *astaraite, but it should be *astarraite or *astahraite “~part–particular-feature” (the attested primitive form, without the leading s-, conflicts with both the attested root and Sindarin derivative on the same page, so I imagine it to be a slip or similar). Using the noun-noun compound feels more redundant to me than the adjective-noun one above, though I don’t fully understand why.
For the “uniqueness, distinction” etymology, ER feels like the proper Q root, and we have the abstract noun eresse “solitude, loneliness, isolation” in eressea “solitary, lonely, isolated”. We also have three other related Q adjectives: erinqua, erya, er of similar meaning. *erinquie, *erinquale/-ve/-re and *eryale/-ve/-re and erie may be fitting candidates for “detail”, especially with general scope. Another angle is *erinquasta, *eryasta, *erasta “lonely part/element” with particular scope and *erinquastie, *eryastie, *erastie with general scope—the abstract concept; cf. tengwe, tengwa, tengwele, tengwesta, tengwestie with different shades of meaning. Some of these coinages sound/look better than others to me.
+Tamas Ferencz I agree that astaince works better as “particle”. I also missed +Robert Reynolds suggestion of hraitasta which I rather like for “detail”
+Paul Strack is ainc a valid sequence? I recall discussing it with +Björn Fromén some months ago and we sort of agreed that although there's attested quainque that is likely an anomaly.
+Tamas Ferencz Good point, diphthongs should not ordinarily appear before consonant clusters. However, vowels in hiatus are allowed to appear before clusters, so perhaps it would be pronounced astaïnce
ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ May 27, 2018 (19:37)
Remy Corbin May 27, 2018 (23:13)
In Polish it also comes from "one of a kind, alone".
I like erinquie and erinquale but would't one of them mean "loneliness"? Maybe the other could stand for "detail" and "unit" as well?
Tamas Ferencz May 28, 2018 (12:33)
Having said that I personally don't really like erinquale etc. for 'detail'.
Robert Reynolds May 28, 2018 (12:59)
I like the sound of *astaraite, but it should be *astarraite or *astahraite “~part–particular-feature” (the attested primitive form, without the leading s-, conflicts with both the attested root and Sindarin derivative on the same page, so I imagine it to be a slip or similar). Using the noun-noun compound feels more redundant to me than the adjective-noun one above, though I don’t fully understand why.
For the “uniqueness, distinction” etymology, ER feels like the proper Q root, and we have the abstract noun eresse “solitude, loneliness, isolation” in eressea “solitary, lonely, isolated”. We also have three other related Q adjectives: erinqua, erya, er of similar meaning. *erinquie, *erinquale/-ve/-re and *eryale/-ve/-re and erie may be fitting candidates for “detail”, especially with general scope. Another angle is *erinquasta, *eryasta, *erasta “lonely part/element” with particular scope and *erinquastie, *eryastie, *erastie with general scope—the abstract concept; cf. tengwe, tengwa, tengwele, tengwesta, tengwestie with different shades of meaning. Some of these coinages sound/look better than others to me.
Remy Corbin May 28, 2018 (13:08)
Tamas Ferencz May 28, 2018 (13:30)
Tamas Ferencz May 28, 2018 (13:31)
Paul Strack May 28, 2018 (16:33)
Tamas Ferencz May 28, 2018 (17:48)
Paul Strack May 28, 2018 (22:29)
Tamas Ferencz May 29, 2018 (00:27)
Tamas Ferencz May 29, 2018 (00:38)
Paul Strack May 29, 2018 (01:19)