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G. Hussain Chinoy Jan 11, 2015 (06:18)

Carl Hostetter just published some interesting words.

"... glossary of Elvish terms (some previously unattested) encountered in a collection of late notes by J.R.R. Tolkien (spanning the late 1950s to 1972) concerning Elvish reincarnation and related metaphysical matters, and recently published by editor Michaël Devaux as Fragments on Elvish Reincarnation in the volume J.R.R. Tolkien, l’éffigie des Elfes (La Feuille de la Compagnie, Cahier d’études tolkiniennes, No 3; Paris, Bragelonne, 2014; pp. 94-161). "

"Dr. Devaux invited me to prepare this glossary, and incorporated its contents, in French translation and with expansions, into his commentary on Tolkien's texts (see pp. 41-47)."
A Glossary of Elvish Terms in Fragments on Elvish Reincarnation
Introduction. The following is a glossary of Elvish terms encountered in a collection of late notes by J.R.R. Tolkien (spanning the late 1950s to 1972) concerning Elvish reincarnation and related metaphysical matters, and recently published by editor Michaël Devaux as Fragments on Elvish ...

Tamas Ferencz Jan 11, 2015 (10:39)

Interesting. Fascinating thatME the Elves applied the same logic as the Greeks, when they named the únehtar ☺

It just occurred to me that the gloss of the root MEN as it is given in PE17 make it suitable to use it as a verb to mean "mean, intend", as in " this word means xy in Quenya ", or " I didn't mean that to happen ".

Jan Sorondil Slaný Jan 11, 2015 (17:54)

Unfortunately, there is a homophone nasse, meaning both "person" and "material". Which one should I choose?
Nice to know we have a word for "mean". As for the meaning "this means this in Quenya", I considered using the word tana- "to show, indicate". Does it sound plausible enough?

Matt Dinse Jan 12, 2015 (04:41)

The homophones are unfortunate for neo-Quenya usage. As for the "material" one, it dates from 'The Converse of Manwe with Eru' (1959), and examples given are iron and gold. As for únehtar, they are mentioned when Tolkien discusses something that sounds rather like isotopes. :D

As for Ermenië, it occurs in a sentence "Now some hold that as the matters of Ea proceed from a single erma (if this indeed be true), so the life of living things comes from one beginning or Ermenië" (128).

Hjalmar Holm Jan 22, 2015 (00:28)

Might it be possible to make a Sindarin word similar to *nehta‑ divide, part, separate, based of NEK "divide"?

Tamas Ferencz Jan 22, 2015 (00:59)

I think it would be *neitha- (already attested as homophone) or *neithia- (cf. leithia- from LEK-)