Post NX1yBpPNNtr

James Coish Aug 25, 2018 (16:18)

Is there a distinction as to when you use the strong vs the weak form of a past tense Quenya verb when it has both forms?

Björn Fromén Aug 25, 2018 (18:15)

For ulya- 'pour' the strong past (ulle) is intransitive, the weak past (ulyane) transitive. Perhaps there are more similar examples.

Tamas Ferencz Aug 26, 2018 (11:49)

When there is no transitive/intransitive distinction between the two forms, in my opinion all we can say is that perhaps the strong form may feel more formal, olden (because the weak form is likely the result of a later, analogical formation).

James Coish Aug 26, 2018 (14:44)

+Tamas Ferencz so, in your opinion, when there is both forms and no distinction, the weak should be marked as archaic or poetic? That is what my opinion is but wanted some justification. ☺

Tamas Ferencz Aug 27, 2018 (17:08)

+James Coish I don't know about archaic - Tolkien usually marked the words he wanted to be taken as archaic, so if he didn't, it probably means the two forms were more or less equivalent and were used in colloquial language.