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Tamas Ferencz Feb 05, 2018 (17:51)

Do you think the idea behind ahtumat may have been that it is the 'worker's meal', meaning the main meal for those who usually work through the day and only have a fast lunch at midday? (ahto coming from KAT)
Or is the first part of the compound an unrelated, unknown morpheme - we'll probably never know.

If the former, then are ahtumat and sanguma pointing to an o > u a > u change at compound boundaries? (I may be banging on a wide open door here if this has been long established).

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Feb 05, 2018 (19:17)

By coincidence or effort, the form ahtumat is also evocative of

Tamas Ferencz Feb 05, 2018 (19:19)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ‏interesting parallel

Ицхак Пензев Feb 05, 2018 (19:34)

Totally puzzled.

Tamas Ferencz Feb 05, 2018 (19:56)

Might add aþumo from AÞA

Tamas Ferencz Feb 06, 2018 (00:04)

If it were indeed pattern it might give us a clue how suffixes like -ma get attached to A-verbs

Tamas Ferencz Feb 06, 2018 (09:49)

we do have of course quite a number of Quenya nouns ending in -amo that are derived from A-verbs so I am probably on the wrong track here

Christopher Gilson Feb 14, 2018 (02:30)

Perhaps ahtu- is related to kata ‘after’. Could the -u be adverbial?

Tamas Ferencz Feb 14, 2018 (09:28)

+Christopher Gilson interesting thought!
I've also noticed that G authmadri "midday meal" has a similar shape; probably not related grammatically, but maybe the older word influenced the later one somehow.