G+ LoME Archive
Jun 23, 2015 (17:44)
Does anyone have an idea of how to express "goal, target, objective"?
Jun 23, 2015 (19:39)
Maybe the word could be derived from
'make for sth'? Eg.
Jun 23, 2015 (19:45)
I've thought of √TEN,
But I also wonder if there are some existing word or neologism.
Jun 24, 2015 (04:04)
I wonder if something could be made from words for will/intention/purpose, like the verb
"I willed it, I did it on purpose", and noun
"purpose" (and an expression
"by the will of God"). However, I'm not sure if passive formations with
"draught") could be formed with derived verbs instead of roots ... and the original √NID has a slightly different nuance.
Maybe something from
"go to, reach" (157) [>] "arrive at, reach" (163) from
(dative/allative roots?)...? However, I'm probably biased towards forms I've just read, since my mind is drowning in PE22's vocabulary and grammar at the moment.
"goal, intention" in the Gnomish Lexicon, and √MEK may actually still be valid in later Quenya, given the etymology of "please!" in the 1969 Quenya sentence
á þak' i fende, mekin
"Close the door, please!" The root for that is not given, but it seems to be to be the aorist 1st person form of a verb
. "I ask" might be expected, but "I intend, I aim at" ?might? may sense for a derivation of "please".
is not related to the various other forms/roots for "wish", "like", "aim at, intend", "longing", "it pleases him" in the 1940s and 1950 paradigms, though ... but it may have been revived from earlier on?
However, several of the roots/verbs/paradigms in the 40s and 50s paradigms are different than the ones that appear in 1969's, and some unfortunately clash, like the verb that was earlier (in the 40s, late 40s, and 1950's) used for "seem, appear" in Quenya. In the 1969 documents, it appeared in a sentence as the verb "judge" as well as one with "learn" (so I guess they must share some nuance?) ... but at any rate, both of those were replaced with two different verbs. So perhaps we can still use √NEM for "seem, appear" after all (unrelated to N
Jun 24, 2015 (16:02)
"aim at" doesn't necessarily clash with LotR's
as the latter name might actually be made of
Jun 24, 2015 (16:20)
Jun 24, 2015 (17:06)
Shouldn't it derive rather as something *
Jun 24, 2015 (17:30)
, I think that in Sindarin
. But that's assuming that 1969
is from such a root (words related to goal, centre, heart, aim at, objective, intention):
, I'm inclined to agree, especially that we have
and words formed with it throughout the QL/GL/etc. and Etymologies (