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Feb 12, 2018 (00:58)
is "something, a thing", and
is "close grouping", could
Feb 12, 2018 (01:06)
Why not use (o)combë?
Feb 12, 2018 (05:00)
I think the English word "group" has several meanings, that's why it would have more than one equivalent in Quenya. I've been using
for a group of people, for a while.
Feb 12, 2018 (09:30)
Well, groups usually consist of people or mobile creatures and not things. Hence rather e.g. *
(for those who for some reason don't like the attested or modified forms from KHOTH). A synonym *
even offers thoughts about group mentality..
Feb 12, 2018 (09:31)
it was more like a theoretical question, as in "does any noun + -sta mean a group of those nouns > hence
a 'group' in itself?
a group of people, a team?"
Feb 12, 2018 (10:39)
mean "a wolfpack".
Feb 12, 2018 (18:27)
, I doubt
is used as a general collective suffix. None of the attested examples have this meaning.
In fact, the closest general meaning in Quenya seems to be “part”, as (for example) the use of -sta in fractions.
Feb 12, 2018 (23:13)
there are many stas... I am taking about this one:
eldamo.org - Eldamo : Middle Quenya : -sta¹
Feb 12, 2018 (23:28)
may belong to the same group of nouns, beside
that you cite on the Eldamo entry.
Feb 13, 2018 (00:55)
I get which
you talking about. I just don’t think Quenya used it that way. The linked entry above is part of a discussion on the origin of the collective suffix
in Noldorin/Sindarin. If that suffix survived in Quenya, I think it’s original collective meaning would have been lost, and it would serve only as an abstract noun suffix in isolated cases like tengwesta (and maybe sorasta).
To put it differently, I think a general collective suffix is too “Sindarinish” and shouldn’t be part of Quenya.
Feb 13, 2018 (09:36)