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Tamas Ferencz Mar 20, 2018 (15:52)

Referring to discussions elsewhere, another root that can be utilized to express the idea of inn, guesthouse, hotel etc. is NATH > *naþumo "guest"; > *naþwe "inn, guesthouse"

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Mar 20, 2018 (20:17)

Is *naþ-we based on or on something else?

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Mar 20, 2018 (22:25)

+Tamas Ferencz I meant the suffix.

Tamas Ferencz Mar 20, 2018 (22:30)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ I am sorry. No, as in hiswe that's the suffix -me

Paul Strack Mar 21, 2018 (00:07)

+Tamas Ferencz Why would naswe mean “guesthouse” and not “hospitality” or some similar abstract concept related to “guest-ness”?

Tamas Ferencz Mar 21, 2018 (08:56)

+Paul Strack I'll reverse that: why does sennas mean "guesthouse" and not some other abstraction related to peace, rest?

Tamas Ferencz Mar 21, 2018 (09:40)

But the main point is the root and its usability - what suffix would be used is another matter.

Paul Strack Mar 21, 2018 (13:54)

+Tamas Ferencz I would say sennas means “guesthouse” because it is already attested with that meaning, making it more plausible that it’s Quenya cognate means the same thing. If we say that naswe also means “guesthouse”, than it can’t mean something else, like “hospitality”. We already have a neologism for “guesthouse” but we don’t have one for “hospitality”.

Now that I focusing more on Neo-Eldarin, I am trying to think more holistically about the languages. So for a potential neologism, I am asking not just “could this word mean X”, but also “what other meanings might the word have that we would be losing if the word were accepted with the meaning X”.

I agree that naswe could mean “guesthouse” patterned after S. sennas, but based on its root meanings it could just as easily mean “welcome, hospitality”, and I think that latter would be a more useful neologism.