Possibly. I can also imagine other verbal adjectives like melíte or iríte (to get desire into the picture); or the imperfect participle melila. Even melmea is a possibility; cf. Hungarian where the adjective "in love" is formed from the noun "love".
+Tamas Ferencz I believe ite ending is approaching participle in expressing an inherent quality, 'apt to do smth.' So, melíte can mean no more that 'amorous, one who falls in love indiscriminately'.
+Александр Запрягаев again, you may be right. But then again Tolkien assigned a specific verbal adjective to mean "apt to do sthing" which is -ula. But indeed elsewhere he is talking about -ite having a sort of permanent quality. Then also we might have the simple *melia.
In Estonian one finds armu- (inf. armuda, armuma) "to fall in love", past active participle armunud "(fallen) in love". What would, say, *melúna mean in Quenya in light of PE22 contents?
That is an interesting proposition. page 114 certainly implies that verbs in u often had (or acquired) an inceptive meaning, so indeed -*melu- could mean "fall in love"; as for the passive, the form liruima on p 111, and the fact that -ina remains unchanged in verbs ending in -a, suggests that the form would be *meluina. Then on pp 135-136 he discusses -u verbs again from a CE perspective, and here he states that it is really the suffixes lu, ru, nu that carry the inceptive meaning, and he cites the forms thillu, thilnu "shine out, appear" which could suggest that our verb would rather look like *mellu, melnu.
+James Coish Not physically, but the locative can also be used figuratively, cf. hara máriesse 'stay in happiness', sangiessemman 'in our necessities'.
+James Coish well sure, one needs a fair amount of tinkering with sense and synonyms to translate something to Quenya, at least quite often that's the case
Tamas Ferencz Jan 25, 2017 (10:12)
Even melmea is a possibility; cf. Hungarian where the adjective "in love" is formed from the noun "love".
Александр Запрягаев Jan 25, 2017 (12:03)
Tamas Ferencz Jan 25, 2017 (13:04)
Then also we might have the simple *melia.
Tamas Ferencz Jan 25, 2017 (13:38)
ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Jan 25, 2017 (16:39)
Tamas Ferencz Jan 25, 2017 (17:01)
uoften had (or acquired) an inceptive meaning, so indeed -*melu- could mean "fall in love"; as for the passive, the form liruima on p 111, and the fact that -ina remains unchanged in verbs ending in -a, suggests that the form would be *meluina.Then on pp 135-136 he discusses -u verbs again from a CE perspective, and here he states that it is really the suffixes lu, ru, nu that carry the inceptive meaning, and he cites the forms thillu, thilnu "shine out, appear" which could suggest that our verb would rather look like *mellu, melnu.
Thoughts?
Björn Fromén Jan 25, 2017 (23:45)
James Coish Jan 25, 2017 (23:47)
Björn Fromén Jan 26, 2017 (00:13)
Tamas Ferencz Jan 26, 2017 (08:54)
Александр Запрягаев Jan 26, 2017 (11:12)
Tamas Ferencz Jan 26, 2017 (12:09)
James Coish Jan 27, 2017 (00:18)
Tamas Ferencz Jan 27, 2017 (09:58)
Александр Запрягаев Jan 29, 2017 (08:03)