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Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (09:31)

Any suggestions for the verb "glide, slide" in Q, and, consequently, 'sleigh'? At one point I coined pas- and it's in VQP but now we have that with an attested meaning of "to smooth".

Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (12:49)

We can e.g. say that talta- does not necessarily have to carry a "downward" sense and can mean 'slide, glide' in general (see the etymology of E slide at

Following that, a noun derivate could be *talatmá > *talanwa/talanwe "sled, sleigh" - slide | Origin and meaning of slide by Online Etymology Dictionary

Björn Fromén Nov 15, 2017 (17:22)

I've used raxa 'a drag' (PE 17:28) for 'sleigh'.

I think 'down' is an essential part of the meaning of talta-, as shown by Atalante "the Downfallen".

Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (17:33)

+Björn Fromén raxa seems great for "sled". That would still leave "slide" unresolved though🙄

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Nov 15, 2017 (18:49)

Those who don't like neologisms may consider using an already known verb á la Icelandic :

For those who can live with them: The root (!)LEKH [] which also resembles PIE *(s)leh₂b- seems like the most plausible starting point for creating the verb (at least to a Finnish-speaker..). Would a simple root stem be understood as intransitive? Compare lah- "kick" from LAKH (the root having the same meaning as the verb).

Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (19:49)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ‏do you mean extending the meaning of, say, kelu or sir-?

Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (19:50)

Sorry for the mess in my comment, your RTL username confuses my G+ app.

Robert Reynolds Nov 15, 2017 (22:07)

This may have been little more than a passing thought, but in PE22 page 150 Tolkien considered redefining √KIR to 'shave; skim (surface), slip along, glide quickly' with kirya as an adjective 'swift gliding'. - Eldamo : Primitive Elvish : KIR

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Nov 15, 2017 (22:35)

+Tamas Ferencz Whatever one deems the most logical candidate. "To ski", "to skate" or "to go by sled, sleigh" would be good — if translations from any period were documented somewhere.

Tamas Ferencz Nov 15, 2017 (23:45)

+Robert Reynolds that would actually make a lot of sense