Nótime árillor né *tittaiwi [1] tutúlier tutullier [2] lotarwammanna. Níke, linte, karaiti, maline-morne-ninqui, ta kólime i polinte kape lótello lótenna lá *aptala[3] in telkor.
[1] 'tit, titmouse' for want of a better idea for now - suggestions welcome [2] 'have been coming/visiting' freq. of tul- [3] 'bend (transitive)' from GAP 'bend (tr.) VT47
Rather tutullier. PE22 mentions it. on p. 96: «the "repetitive" form with reduplication and gemination of the final basic consonant was so common in Q. as to be virtually part of the system of "strong" verbs; so tutulla-, to keep on coming (and going).»
+Tamas Ferencz very dubious. Helge had suggested to bind it with nyarro 'rat' and make a diminutive (because many European languages did not distingish them for quite a long time). But I think these creatures are different enough to be distinguished. Maybe I'll try nippo based on Gn. nib.
+Tamas Ferencz I am sorry, maybe I am not precise in wording. English is not my native language. I meant that I am not confident about coining a word for mouse from the stem √SLIK.
Now I see. I had had to consult the original PE11, not a mere index. Then it may be nicco, though the stem is further reinterpreted into √NIK 'small' (VT47:26) — that's a lucky coincidence.
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (16:09)
«the "repetitive" form with reduplication and gemination of the final basic consonant was so common in Q. as to be virtually part of the system of "strong" verbs; so tutulla-, to keep on coming (and going).»
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (16:10)
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (16:30)
thá. Emmáratuvanyes.
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (16:36)
the Gnomish word for mouse seems to come from 'creep, steal' so maybe something from SLIK?
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (16:42)
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (17:53)
very dubious. Helge had suggested to bind it with nyarro 'rat' and make a diminutive (because many European languages did not distingish them for quite a long time). But I think these creatures are different enough to be distinguished. Maybe I'll try nippo based on Gn. nib.
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (17:55)
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (17:55)
in what way is it dubious?
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (17:55)
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (18:02)
I am sorry, maybe I am not precise in wording. English is not my native language.
I meant that I am not confident about coining a word for mouse from the stem √SLIK.
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (18:27)
fair enough, although Tolkien seems to have followed that semantic path in G nig
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (18:37)
Tamas Ferencz May 23, 2016 (20:20)
the Qenya verb from the same root appears to be naqa- => *naqua- => *nacco?
Ицхак Пензев May 23, 2016 (21:01)
Ицхак Пензев May 24, 2016 (07:55)
If we follow the pattern from Gn. nigla, we get something like *naqual. Is it satisfactory? I don't like the result.
James Coish Jun 01, 2016 (23:15)
Tamas Ferencz Jun 02, 2016 (00:18)
James Coish Jun 02, 2016 (00:52)