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Paul Strack Mar 27, 2016 (19:05)

Benjamin Babut has release a new transcription tool on the Glaemscrafu web-site: Glaemscribe. It is extremely nice (link below).

He also has an API version available, both command line and javascript, available on Github:

https://github.com/BenTalagan/glaemscribe

I took a quick stab at integrating the Javascript library with the Eldamo search page, and it has great performance, even in my iPhone:

http://eldamo.org/content/search/search.html

If you are interested in tengwar transcription, I seriously recommended taking a look at these tools. I've been holding off on tengwar integration in Eldamo until Mr. Babut finished his tools, and it was well worth the wait.
Glǽmscrafu - Glǽmscribe
Glǽmscribe (or Glaemscribe) is an open-source engine and library written by Benjamin Talagan Babut, dedicated to transcribing languages invented by J. R. R. Tolkien (generally written with Latin letters and diacritics) into writing systems he devised in his works – such as tengwar, ...

G. Hussain Chinoy Mar 27, 2016 (22:56)

Great find on glaemscribe!

Jim Coish Mar 30, 2016 (17:52)

Thank you for finding this for us!!

Александр Запрягаев Apr 02, 2016 (21:54)

+Paul Strack Ha! I can still outtrick it with Panthael! Hope it will be fixed soon!

Paul Strack Apr 02, 2016 (22:07)

That not really a bug so much as an ambiguity of the transcription of Sindarin into Latin letters. You can get Glamescribe to do the right thing by removing the ambiguity by writing pant-hael.

Александр Запрягаев Apr 03, 2016 (13:17)

+Paul Strack I'd very much like eth and thorn for Sindarin on the keyboard. That would eliminate all questions! Another bug I found: ht and pt are expressed as two tengwar, no with a single extended stem.

Paul Strack Apr 03, 2016 (16:31)

+Александр Запрягаев Glaemscribe does correctly transcribe thorn (þ) in Quenya, but not (unfortunately) Sindarin. I sent Ben a note about it. Glaemscribe does correctly transcribe edh (ð) in Sindarin.

As for ht, pt, I presume you are referring to the tengwar uphto/opto and ohta from PE22/42, 50-51. Glaemscribe would probably handle those as optional transcriptions, the same way it has an optional transcription in Quenya for voiced plosives as either extended tengwar or with a subscribed stroke.

Paul Strack Apr 03, 2016 (16:43)

There are a lot of variant and alternate transcription modes in Tolkien's writing, and it is unlikely that Glaemscribe will cover all of them. For example, I asked Ben if he could add support for the "osse with a cedilla" mentioned on PE22/36, since it helps a lot with legibility.

http://eldamo.org/content/words/word-3716531873.html

While he liked the idea, not every Tengwar font includes this character, so he decided against incorporating it in Glaemscribe proper.

Still, you can address issues like this by doing some post-processing on the transcription. That's how I added the "osse with a cedilla" to Eldamo even though Glaemscribe doesn't have it. I also used post-processing to tweak the placement of tehta to fit my preferences for the Tengwar Eldamar font I used on my site.

Александр Запрягаев Apr 03, 2016 (17:23)

+Paul Strack I speak about much later symbols, PE19:84.

Paul Strack Apr 03, 2016 (17:30)

+Александр Запрягаев Ah, I missed those. Prior to PE22, my notes on tengwar are very sloppy. The (unnamed) symbols on PE19/84 are identical in function to the uphto/opto and ohta symbols on PE22/50-51, though, so it seems like the idea of them survived at least until the 1950s.

Александр Запрягаев Apr 03, 2016 (17:56)

+Paul Strack I decided not to reach any conclusions about PE22 until the B and C versions from the 1940s are revealed, for many changes are promised in the preface.

Paul Strack Apr 04, 2016 (00:35)

I got an email from Benjamin Babut. You can report Glaemscribe bugs on Github:

https://github.com/BenTalagan/glaemscribe/issues

He also said he has fixed the issue with þ in Sindarin and added support for the uphto/opto and ohta tengwar (as well as Este/asto) as an optional feature.

http://www.jrrvf.com/~glaemscrafu/english/glaemscribe.html

Александр Запрягаев Apr 14, 2016 (18:28)

+Paul Strack Will there be an ability to suppress the a-tehta while putting dots under non-prevocalic consonants? I normally use this mode to write Quenya, but only quanta-tenkele is realised now.

Paul Strack Apr 16, 2016 (02:34)

+Александр Запрягаев Sorry for the slow reply. I suggest you post an issue to Ben's GitHub issues page above, with the suggestion. I have found him to be very responsive.