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Hjalmar Holm Apr 13, 2015 (11:30)

I and Ekin discussed how to express "together" when one doesn't want to have it as a prefix to another word. Eg "we shall be together", where the only verb that it could be attached to is "be", and *gonathanc in this example ("will be together") feels a bit iffy, doesn't it? Ideas?

Tamas Ferencz Apr 13, 2015 (13:25)

Well Quenya at least has an independent form uo "together" but indeed we do not have an attested equivalent in Gnomish/Noldorin/Sindarin.
Without resorting to creating a neologism, you probably need to paraphrase, e.g. express 'be together' in a different way ('walk together', 'live together', 'abide together' etc.)

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Apr 14, 2015 (17:45)

If one were to apply attested material only, a sui/vi chûd êr [1] type of solution might work — at least when there are more than just two characters.

[1] Here the numeral is after the noun (vs. reading êr as the adjective "single" < VT48:6), per Derdzinski's 2002 grammar outline. Noldorin & Welsh would place the numeral before the noun.

Hjalmar Holm Apr 15, 2015 (00:33)

Or perhaps erthannen "united"?

Александр Запрягаев Apr 16, 2015 (09:52)

A trivial idea: gwaf < gwa-bhe (cf. godrebh < gwa-tre-bhe) 'together' (as an adverb). Don't really like the sounding of the form, but why not?