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Tamas Ferencz Nov 06, 2017 (12:46)

How would you guys say 'important, significant' in late/neo Quenya?

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Nov 06, 2017 (19:10)

[?Optional] an– + a participle/adjective from DUB or LUG? Vs. *tiruvaina, renuvaina/enyaluvaina etc. (PE22 : karuvaina) and Qe. valdëa / vildima. Pity that the page doesn't appear to actually have a word yet.

Tamas Ferencz Nov 06, 2017 (21:15)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ‏you mean as in 'to be weighed'?

ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ Nov 06, 2017 (22:26)

Or simply "weightful, weighing, pressing", etc. Let's not forget Latin gravis.

Tamas Ferencz Nov 07, 2017 (00:45)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ‏ ... I just didn't get the future passive. i see

Leonard W. Nov 07, 2017 (11:18)

+ܤܡܝ ܦܠܕܢܝܘܤ It exists, but the semi-colon screws with the URL. I will make sure to fix that bug today. Until then, the word is available here:

Tamas Ferencz Nov 07, 2017 (12:26)

+Leonard W. unfortunately that's a very early verb and would be difficult to adapt - unless someone has a good idea

Tamas Ferencz Nov 07, 2017 (12:31)

Of course we can say we extend the meaning of lunga/lungo. - Eldamo : Quenya : lungo

Tamas Ferencz Nov 07, 2017 (12:33)

Another root that could develop a word with this sense is UB - Eldamo : Middle Primitive Elvish : UB²

James Coish Nov 07, 2017 (18:09)

+Tamas Ferencz that has been a question for me as well. Roots with syllabic L, N or R seem to have i in "present" forms and a in "past" forms but with no rhyme or reason.

Paul Strack Nov 08, 2017 (07:31)

+James Coish The development of syllabic L, N, R in Early Quenya depends on whether it was a short or long vowel. Long syllabic L, N, R became al, an, ar, but short syllabic L, N, R had various developments depending on the surrounding consonants.

In Early Primitive Elvish, past tense was often formed by vowel lengthening, which means the Quenya past tense tends to have the vowel “a” and the present tense various other vowels.

See PE12/10-11 or the phonetic discussion in Eldamo starting here: - Eldamo : Early Quenya : long syllabic [ḹ], [ṝ] became [al], [ar]