G+ LoME Archive
Sep 22, 2015 (19:37)
Two, possibly simple, questions to Quenya experts.
1. How do you make a genitive out of a gerund?
? (Same for adding
2. How do you write postvocalic Y in tengwar? Is it even possible to spell
? Do we put the two dots under a tehta? Or maybe spell them like they were diphthongs with I instead? (like
Mayar <> Maiar
Sep 23, 2015 (06:01)
In my notes I found two genitive formations for nouns ending in
(PE17/59). The first example implies normal rules apply. The second is a bit more interesting, indicating that a "joining consonant" might be used in some conditions.
As for the Tengwar, I'd guess you'd use
for post-vocalic "y", since the difference between y and diphthongal i is pretty small anyway.
Sep 23, 2015 (08:52)
according to +
When occurring solely, and not following a consonant, the palatal sound y was represented by the silent tengwa anna together with the palatalization tehta.
Sep 23, 2015 (20:59)
As I see,
is rather a late stage of an experiment, 'what if
is an adverb, then what is
?' So it can be excluded after RGeO. However, the second pne is disturbing. I now see that before 1936, Tolkien uses
Sep 24, 2015 (11:00)
why is it disturbing? It's not awkward looking and not difficult to pronounce.
Sep 24, 2015 (19:50)
Well, it is much more awkward than the proposed
with three vowels in an epic hiatus. Especially if pronounced as written, with
is altogether different thing, that I can relate to. Also, this solution does not generalize to other clusters; I cannot make a form like
altogether; much thanks! I've decided to study
Outline of Phonology
carefully now; how much it hurts that the cluster development should be considered much wrong (
Jan 11, 2016 (20:17)
, but that's rather subjective.
Jan 14, 2016 (15:16)
appeared in a bit which treats
as adverb, not adjective plural, which is superseded by RGeO printed canon. The same texts proposes a further nasty deletion blasting away the -
adverbials, so I tend to disregard it. I'm for PE21 here strangely enough.