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Александр Запрягаев, Rick Spell, Links to resources, Paul Strack, Hjalmar Holm, Ekin Gören, Matt Dinse, Tamas Ferencz

Paul Strack Jun 06, 2015 (07:11)

I've release Eldamo 0.4.7, which has two major updates:

1) I've analyzed the Danian language. I originally thought this would be quite easy, given the small corpus, but that just meant I had to do a lot of guesswork on its phonological development, comparing it to the Old English and Old Norse languages that Tolkien indicated were its inspiration. If any of you knows about those languages and are interested in the minor Elvish languages, I'd appreciate it if you took a look at my analysis. I make no claims to expertise in real-world linguistics: most of my study in this area has been in Elvish.

http://eldamo.sourceforge.net/content/language-pages/lang-dan.html

2) I finished the data entry for VT50 (the Turin's Wrapper) and entered data for the Nebrachar poem (MC/217). This means I've entered most of the big chunks of Gnomish/Noldorin/Sindarin words, though I am quite sure there are scattered words in the published materials that I've have not yet included. As a result, I am starting to analyze this cluster of languages, since my knowledge in that arena is still pretty weak. Given my usual pace for such things, I expect the complete analysis to take a couple years, but it will be interspersed with other work, including data entry for more issues of Parma Eldalamberon (PE14 is next).
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Eldamo - An Elvish Lexicon. by Paul Strack — v0.4.7 — generated on June 5, 2015 5:53:19 PM PDT. This collection of documents describes Tolkien's invented languages, particularly his Elvish languages, which are the most detailed. I call the collection a “lexicon” because it is not a dictionary in ...

Tamas Ferencz Jun 06, 2015 (09:41)

That's another big step ahead towards having a unified Eldarin database - thank you for your work!

Hjalmar Holm Jun 06, 2015 (11:48)

Hurrah! And also I like the possibility to search on endings of words in the search function. I use several times per week.

Ekin Gören Jun 06, 2015 (23:08)

I belive Eldamo will be the main tool for anyone who is interested in Eldarin tongues. Thank you so much! By the way, Hjalmar's idea (if possible) would be very helpful for poets, in rhymes and such.

Paul Strack Jun 07, 2015 (00:48)

Hjalmar's suggestion is actually part of this release. You can now restrict search matches to the beginning or the end of a word.

Rick Spell Jun 07, 2015 (03:08)

Thanks for the hard work! This is the best thing since sliced Lembas!

Matt Dinse Jun 07, 2015 (15:14)

Very nice!

Александр Запрягаев Jun 07, 2015 (17:31)

An amazing undertaking, sir! I'm quite shocked (in good way) to observe how many of Danian sound shifts are explained by Old English/Norse, where they were performed very similar ways.

[Hence a thing that I'd been considering for a while: try and render— maybe even collectively — from void some of the (Lemberin, for instance?) languages of the 'Comparative Tables', actually enacting the proposed shifts and deducing the effects on middle consonant clusters from the corresponding data! David Salo attempted something similar for Telerin in his essay, but he had lots of further textual data, and making a fair-sounding language out of pure theoretization would be an overwhelming proof of Tolkien's language understanding…]

Hjalmar Holm Jun 12, 2015 (19:33)

+Paul Strack +Ekin Gören Hjalmar's "suggestion" was not actually a suggestion, but a praise to Paul's great work!

Ekin Gören Jun 13, 2015 (16:21)

+Hjalmar Holm Ah, right! You've said that you use it.