G+ LoME Archive
Feb 09, 2015 (12:35)
Milyas Menelwa Lannín
Samumnen cé menelwa netyaine lanni,
As míri sisilcala cáleva,
I luine, i néce, i morne lanni
i yucáleva, lómeva, cáleva,
Cé pantuvan i lanni nu
Mal inye, úna, er same lórenyar;
Lórenyar apantien nu
A vanta milyave an vantal or lórenyar.
He Wishes For the Cloths Of Heaven
HAD I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half-light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
Feb 10, 2015 (23:30)
talilyat: perhaps rather
with ómataima? Cf. the locative
and the adjective
(VT 43:16, 49:42).
Feb 11, 2015 (09:11)
you are probably correct. My first instinct was
, but the atttested dual is
so probabl that wouldn't have been correct, either.
Feb 11, 2015 (22:48)
seems quite acceptable to me, or even preferable as it refers to a natural pair. The duals in
occur in QL and the early Qenya Grammar, but apparently they were then abandoned. I don't think they are valid in later conceptions.
Feb 12, 2015 (09:04)
that is a sound reasoning, but do we have the dual marker
plus possessive pronominal ending attested anywhere? All I can remember seeing were pronominal +
Feb 13, 2015 (23:47)
You are right of course, attested duals of nouns with pronominal affixes are scarce indeed. I can only think of
, with dual ending -t like the simple
; are there any more?
According to PE 21:63 the CE duality marker ū "formed nouns that were formally and syntactically
, as e.g. the two ears (of one person)" [= Q
]. I think this points to *
as a plausible way of rendering 'your (pair of) feet'.
Feb 14, 2015 (00:47)
Then there's of course
, the dual possessive of the noun