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Александр Запрягаев May 16, 2015 (19:51)

Lament for Akallabêth.

Terbad na Annûn glennas, aurath hin raeg i•badath.

[There was a straight road westwards, now all the roads are bent.]

terbad 'Straight Path' < taer + pâd (due to +Roman Rausch )
glenna- 'move, proceed, *lay' (from anglenna-)

Richard Rohlin May 16, 2015 (23:38)

I really like this one.

Tamas Ferencz May 17, 2015 (09:39)

What happened, Aleksandr, going for a kind of hexameter? Abandoning the linnod? ;-)

Александр Запрягаев May 17, 2015 (10:25)

+Tamas Ferencz Is something wrong? Not quantitative, indeed, this time I didn't manage it, but I thought the accentual pattern of the linnod is followed? TÉR-bad-na-ÁN-nûn-GLÉN-nas, ÁU-rath-hín-RÁEG-i-BÁ-dath.

Tamas Ferencz May 17, 2015 (14:47)

+Александр Запрягаев nope. No problem. Now that you mention it, I am not even sure how accentual pentameters work. It's there a max number of syllables in one half?

Александр Запрягаев May 17, 2015 (15:27)

Maybe I misunderstand the syllable divisions in Sindarin, but I believe there are seven syllables in each half, long vowels and diphthongs counted as one syllable (except ui, which is allowed to be split in two); the attested one has the accentual measure —oo—o—o/—oo—o—o, which I always exploit, as well as a quantitative measure —oo—oo—/—oo—oo—, which is a classical (dactylic) pentameter and which I also try to retain, though succeed quite rarely, for Sindarin seems not really fit for such compositions, even most of the verbal forms cannot be used in them at all. Accentual pentameters are supposed to retain the structure of —oo—oo—/—oo—oo—, but in stresses instead of length, but linnyd do not use such a metre
I use Salo's interpretation when a syllable is counted 'long' if houses a long vowel, a diphthong, a cluster of two or more consonants after the vowel (even appearing across a word boundary, except ss, which is considered short) or a single consonant m; and short otherwise — quite a limiting system when you want the majority of your syllables short.

Björn Fromén May 18, 2015 (00:14)

+Александр Запрягаев Do you know of any authentic example showing that an s written double doesn't make its syllable long?